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Post by naomigilker on Mar 4, 2016 21:33:31 GMT
Hey Ben,
Thanks for looking into this ...
When I joined Belpark, I ran pretty consistently with Rathfarnham (Tues & Sat), but then the Tues sessions moved permanently to Nutgrove which doesn't work for me. I kept up the Sat mornings at Bushy for a good while, but have since joined a different run club that offers session that are more convenient for tri-training (and offers a better location for me). I struggle to incorporate weekend long-runs with also getting out for long spins. This is one reason why I do Saturday beginner spins now - I can run on Sundays instead.
I really enjoy getting the weekly training schedule from Rathfarnham, which I modify myself to take into account swims & spins, but if we could be sent something from Rathfarnham that is structured with a triathlete in mind (not purely runners) that would be ideal. To note that I still have a membership with Rathfarham ( hope I don't get kicked out now for running elsewhere as well).
All this to say that having a running plan that also factors in swimming and cycling, would be fantastic!
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Post by johnbrennan on Mar 4, 2016 21:48:06 GMT
I still think there are room for tri club only running sessions. Something like 50k Sunday morning cycle followed by a 10k run. That would be a good idea for the club to look at organising sessions like that.
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Post by Nick Hassell on Mar 5, 2016 8:34:33 GMT
Could we not Do 7.30pm run training on Tuesday. Any where in Dublin I don't mind as that day I can attend. As rest of week busy with family and work
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Post by Cristian V. on Mar 5, 2016 11:41:33 GMT
My 50c:
I'd never heard of the other sessions either (other than Tue). Do you need to join RC to attend say the Sun ones?
There's two reasons why I don't attend the Tuesday ones:
1. Time: By the time I get home from work and put the girls in bed it's at least 7:30pm so forget anything before 8pm. 2. Training Structure: The three times I've attended the Tues sessions during Nov - Feb it was always 1Km intervals. Far from my "base building" focus. Ended up slightly injured and sidelined for couple of weeks afterwards in two occasions.
I'd Love to run in a group but only if the pace meets my training goal - Currently around 5:30 - 6min/Km for long runs (15 - 20 Km).
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Post by helenfrench on Mar 5, 2016 14:43:00 GMT
Hi Chris V - yes . You have to join rathfarnham to attend any of their training sessions that John and Dave highlighted previously. Once you're a member , you get a weekly email with the training schedule. Currently the training schedule is focussed on the Athletics calendar e.g, in the winter it is focused on cross country season and now switching to training for track, so currently it is not triathlon season specific, but something we can explore with rathfarnham head coach.
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Post by cburnsie on Mar 5, 2016 17:46:13 GMT
Folks,
I joined in the 9am session at Bushy Park this morning. The current focus is a mixture of 400m, 600m and 800m intervals. It is tough but seems like ideal speed training for sprint and olympic tri. This is my second week attending and I find the group welcoming, even though I am by far the slowest in the masters section. You are finished before 10am which I find doesn't eat into your day, leaving time for family, chores, socialising or whatever. These guys are running specialists, so if you support their club, especially joining in the odd race with them, they will help you with your run objectives.
I think Ben's idea of creating some linkages with Rathfarnham is a good start. Tuesday evening is also a great session but I agree it is hard to figure out where to join in, so a Belpark liaison would help. 6.30 is a bit early for me as it can be difficult to leave work in time. To be honest I suspect a Belpark session might not be well attended and it will be difficult to cater for all fitness levels. I think you need a group session to push your effort on intervals and tempo runs. At least Rathfarnham give us 3 options a week for intervals or Tempo -Tuesday, Saturday Bushy Park, Saturday at Tallaght track.
I also like Naomi's ideas of tri specific programmes, depending on target distance.
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Post by David Power on Mar 7, 2016 20:41:58 GMT
This weeks training plan from Rathfarnham has a Belpark tab, with 3 run sessions instead of the 7 for the senior men. Tuesday 5 x 1 mile off 2 mins (4 x 1 for women/masters) Thursday PE session followed by 10 x 300m off 45 sec Saturday 25 mins tempo at 85% MHR; warm up and cool down (women: 3 x 400 off 1 min 3 x 600, 3 x 800 off 2 mins)
There is value in getting to even one of these sessions and training in a group.
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Post by johnbrennan on Mar 7, 2016 23:23:43 GMT
Hadnt seen that tab thanks Dave,just my opinion but those sessions look really good for us,delighted Belpark and Rathfarnham have done this,fair play to whoever came up with this idea.
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Post by clare on Mar 8, 2016 21:47:46 GMT
I'd imagine one of the reasons Belpark run with Rathfarnham is from a coaching efficiency point of view. I think anyone proposing new sessions shouldn't underestimate the time and energy if takes to run training sessions well. Perhaps you might want to volunteer to run the suggested new coached sessions if you are proposing them. There's nothing stopping people arranging meet ups to run themselves using the forum.
After finishing up the Fit4Life 8 weeks this evening, which I thoroughly enjoyed coaching, it took a huge amount of time and effort and that was with the assistance of many other volunteers each week, but not sustainable for someone with a full time training schedule to complete themselves, hence why it is only done for 8 weeks. I also think it is worthwhile noting that all run coaching in Rathfarnham, including the Fit4Life coaching is run on a completely volunteer basis, unlike the paid swims sessions in Belpark. It's worth noting the difference.
New ideas are good but perhaps follow it up by a few details on how you think you're suggestion might work, don't just pass the buck onto someone else to organise.
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Post by rorydevlin on Mar 8, 2016 22:58:12 GMT
I find the Tuesdays in rathfarnham great and the one or two Saturdays I made last year were also very good. The fit4life was a great kick-start to my season last year and I found the coaching and info about vdots etc really useful but unfortunately I only made one of the sessions this year because I had other stuff on. Are the novice runners who finished the fit4life now moving to 6.30 with the rest of the AC runners or will there still be people running at 7.30?
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Post by rorydevlin on Mar 8, 2016 23:01:00 GMT
I find the Tuesdays in rathfarnham great and the one or two Saturdays I made last year were also very good. The fit4life was a great kick-start to my season last year and I found the coaching and info about vdots etc really useful but unfortunately I only made one of the sessions this year because I had other stuff on. Are the novice runners who finished the fit4life now moving to 6.30 with the rest of the AC runners or will there still be people running at 7.30? And I should also say that as well as really enjoying the fit 4 life I also greatly appreciate the time and effort that Clare and the other volunteers put into it, it was always really well organised and fun!
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Post by ConalM on Mar 9, 2016 11:20:12 GMT
I'd imagine one of the reasons Belpark run with Rathfarnham is from a coaching efficiency point of view. I think anyone proposing new sessions shouldn't underestimate the time and energy if takes to run training sessions well. Perhaps you might want to volunteer to run the suggested new coached sessions if you are proposing them. There's nothing stopping people arranging meet ups to run themselves using the forum. After finishing up the Fit4Life 8 weeks this evening, which I thoroughly enjoyed coaching, it took a huge amount of time and effort and that was with the assistance of many other volunteers each week, but not sustainable for someone with a full time training schedule to complete themselves, hence why it is only done for 8 weeks. I also think it is worthwhile noting that all run coaching in Rathfarnham, including the Fit4Life coaching is run on a completely volunteer basis, unlike the paid swims sessions in Belpark. It's worth noting the difference. New ideas are good but perhaps follow it up by a few details on how you think you're suggestion might work, don't just pass the buck onto someone else to organise. Having spoken to a number of people about the Rathfarnham run sessions, I'm pretty confident that none of the comments are aimed at the fit4life sessions; quite the opposite, just in case people think that there was any negative feedback! I think everyone recognises the work Clare and team put in and the close attention paid to the people who signed up. I also know that people recognise the work required for running ANY training and that just getting a regular set of weekly run sessions going is a feat in itself. But, my opinion is that there is definitely room for improvement in terms of communication and catering for newbies at the regular Tuesday sessions. Turning up and having to fall in behind a load of fast runners haring around Nutgrove is daunting. They were the first sessions I did as a Belpark member a couple of years ago and it can be hard to show up and just fall in behind people. Taking some of the ideas Clare had at Fit4life and applying them to the regular sessions would be a great way to approach things, and to get people talking and helping each other a bit more. It would be great if all levels could be catered for and given the same attention at every session. I think all this conversation is trying to do is make the whole thing more inclusive so that anyone who shows up will be looked after and want to come back for more. I know that Ben, Mark, Dave and co are trying to lighten the load of the Rathfarnham coaches by getting the beginner Belparkers (generally where most of the newbies seem to come from) looked after. Maybe the best way to do this is by having some separate sessions, which I agree will need volunteers to run on a regular basis!
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Post by jbroaders on Aug 30, 2016 14:56:34 GMT
I've come to this thread late - by a few months.... I really would like to improve my running. Are these sessions still on? Forum seems to be light.
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Post by David Power on Aug 30, 2016 17:26:50 GMT
Tuesday 6.30 in Loreto Park, Nuygrove. 1km intervals tonight. Meeting at bridge in middle of park. Also thur/sat/sun run options. See rathfarnham AC website for schedule.
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Post by gavin on Aug 31, 2016 13:16:52 GMT
Anyone else stop getting the weekly schedule by email? I have asked them if they are still sending them but no response yet..
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